San Antonio Spurs 2017/18 - In Leonard we trust

[tomeczeg20]

Gdy zamiast agenta zatrudniasz wujka to wiadomo ze to sie zle skonczy...

Szkoda Leonarda, to taki average joe w NBA tylko zostal zmanipulowany przez swoja rodzinke ktora chce na nim zarobic(skad my to znamy?).

Po takich akcjach serio podpisywanie goscia to jest ryzyko...

[marceli73]

No szkoda Popa nie da się ukryć. Nie zasłużył na takiego gnoja to po tylu latach. Jeszcze mu w tym roku żona zmarła. Nie wiem jak się to skończy ale to kwalifikuje się to na zawieszenie. Jak sprawa będzie jasna to powinni go zawiesić na sezon lub pół. Zaoszczędzą z 10 -15 baniek. Nie wymieniałbym go za bolków które z FA można łatwo ściągnąć lub wybrać z numerem 20 którymś w drafcie. Niech gnije przez ten sezon gdzieś. 

Edytowane 6 Lipca 2018 przez marceli73

[dannygd]

Rany ile to giewna na kałaja leci tutaj, jakby historia ta to było coś znacznie odbiegające od "standardów NBA"... Chorych układów, pseudo agentów, kolegów od wciągania i wydawania kasy tam od groma... a Pop sobie poradzi. Nie pierwszy i nie ostatni raz

[badboys2]

https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/1015224806122221568

wg broussarda caly ten news o chowaniu to sciema

czyli jak?

Edytowane 6 Lipca 2018 przez badboys2

[Gość (Przemek...)]

[ely3]

Odszedł Tony Parker a to on najbardziej wkurzał Leonarda

 

Czyzby czyścili skład by zostali sami przyjaciele Kawhi?

[Jeff Hanneman]

Z informacji jakie przekazali @ignazz i @Reikai zaczyna powoli kształtować się obraz, że Wujek Dennis to Janusz, który postanowił wykiwać jedną z najlepszych organizacji w historii NBA... Kawhi to tak naprawdę tylko pionek w tej rozgrywce (o ile można tu w ogóle użyć tak górnolotnego sformułowania?) i podąża ślepo za Wujkiem i resztą poklepywaczy po plechach.

 

Wydaje mi się, że SAS wezmą KL po prostu na przeczekanie... Najgorsze co może go spotkać, to arbitraż ligi, która nie pozwoli aby Pop poczuł się skrzywdzony.

[ignazz]

the most the Spurs can offer Mbah a Moute is $6.9 million for 2 years with the BAE or ~$11.6 million for 4 years with the rest of mle

 

Ostatni cel po odpuszczeniu Andersona 37/4 który kończy w memphis.

[ignazz]

Ploteczki ze spurs

 

Na ukończeniu dwuletni kontrakt dla Forbesa

Jeszcze nie potwierdzono 20/4 dla Bertansa

 

Podpisanie obu shooterow może w końcu oznacza oddanie tragicznego kontraktu Millsa.

 

Butler zalejkowal koment o dołączeniu do spurs.

 

Wstawcie jimmyego zamiast Leo

Dajcie minny to co da ktoś za Leo

 

I jedziemy z koksem.

[Eld]

Butler zamiast Khawi. Biorę w ciemno. Khawi wypad na północ, niech mu się trochę pupka pomrozi to i po rozum do głowy pójdzie.

Butler po Popem. Wow. 

Jestem kibicem.

[ignazz]

Leonard 40 minut pod Tt. Biorę tez.

 

Ale tu mualem jednak ma myśli 3 strony trejd.

[ignazz]

Temat założę po 16 tym lipca

 

Wracając do przygotowań i domysłów może być tak ze kontrakty Bertansa Belli i Forbesa są 1+1 co dodając 1rok greena gaya i częściowo gwarantowany kontrak Gasola za rok UWALNIA ponad 17 mln salary już w 2019 roku bez wykreślenia z listy płac Leonarda oraz Millsa ( 21 plus 12,6)

 

Robi się przestrzeń spora stad może ekipa Leonarda jest przetrzymywana ...

 

Oczywiście nikt nie potwierdził tego 1+1 ale byłoby to logiczne.

Jeżeli lakers co rok się podniecali planem A B C to spurs mogą mieć taki plan pierwszy raz od lat.

 

Daleki jestem od ślow ze się "błaznia"

 

W sumie w najgorszym przypadku robią co lakers krótkie kontrakty.

 

Rok lub dwa.

 

I to swoim którzy znają system gry popa.

 

 

Przechodzi u was coś takiego?

 

Three way trade:

 

-Spurs get Butler and Miami's unprotected 2020 pick.

-Wolves get Covington and a Philly 1st round pick.

-Sixers get Kawhi.

 

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybmx468w

 

-Spurs get as close a player as they probably can ever get to a Kawhi type, and a lottery pick.

-Wolves get a great 3 and D guy (who also led the league in +/- for small forwards) to pair with Wiggins and KAT, and a 1st round pick.

-Sixers get Kawhi by only giving up Covington and two draft picks.

 

Win/win/win. ???

Edytowane 11 Lipca 2018 przez ignazz

[Qcin_69]

Ignazz, nie wiem czy Covington i pick z miejsc 25-28 to spoko pakiet za Butlera dla Soty, predzej jakby ten pick Miami trafil do Minnesoty by to przeszlo

[ignazz]

Wole Leonarda stracić za darmo i zagospodarować maxa gdzie indziej niż wiggins.

 

Bez leonarda robi się 38 mln w salary możliwe jakby nic w zamian nie poszło a ostatnie 3 podpisy okazały się 1+1

Minny ma problem z Jimmi

Nie z andrew.

Ignazz, nie wiem czy Covington i pick z miejsc 25-28 to spoko pakiet za Butlera dla Soty, predzej jakby ten pick Miami trafil do Minnesoty by to przeszlo

W sumie racja

[marceli73]

Ignazz, nie wiem czy Covington i pick z miejsc 25-28 to spoko pakiet za Butlera dla Soty, predzej jakby ten pick Miami trafil do Minnesoty by to przeszlo

No i wtedy deal nieopłacalny dla SA chociaż wcześniejsza wycena nieopłacalna dla Wilków. Tutaj widzę za mało klocków ze strony 76ers ale jest nad czym popracować 

 

Ale Butlera cena jest wyższa od Kawhiego (problemy zdrowotne KL, problemy na linii KL-SAS), a pomysł że oddać go mają :

-rok po oddaniu za niego mocnej paczki (#7, #5 poprzedniego draftu, LaVine) 

-po bardzo udanym sezonie - zarówno dla klubu jak i Butlera

 

To zależy czy Butler zamierza podpisać extension czy nie z wilkami a wg mnie jest mniejsze prawdopodobieństwo ze z nimi podpisze niż to ze Leonard z SA. kwasy to inna para kaloszy. Natomiast Leonard jest lepszym koszykarzem I TO po obydwu stronach parkietu niz Buttler.

Edytowane 11 Lipca 2018 przez marceli73

[ignazz]

 

Wright explains that a big reason for the gap between Leonard and the team is because of the perception held by Kawhi’s group that the Spurs are too controlling. However, it seems that Kawhi’s Uncle Dennis may not be the best person to evaluate how controlling someone is. Wright told a previously unshared anecdote about All Star Weekend in New Orleans in January to illustrate that point:

 

Let me tell you a quick story. At the All Star game in New Orleans a few years ago. Kawhi and his people are at the hotel, which is 3 blocks away from the arena. So the Spurs are like, the security people are like, ‘We need to get you out at this time for us to be able to make it to the game on time, because it’s gonna take 3 hours to get 3 blocks, basically.’ Kawhi’s people, namely Uncle Dennis, said, ‘No, we’re not doing that because the Spurs are trying to control this situation, this is what we’re going to do,’ So they decide to leave when Uncle Dennis decides to go and they get stuck in traffic!....You know what ended up happening? These guys ended up paying the hotel to hold the car and they walked, through Mardi Gras crowds, to the arena. They had Kawhi put his hood up and they walked through those crowds to the arena.

 

 

 

Wright makes the argument that, although Dennis sees the Spurs as a dictatorial entity, he has no frame of reference when it comes to how the 29 other teams in the NBA do business. On the subject of the injury that kept Kawhi out all season and the effect Dennis had on the situation, Wright says he made it worse:

 

“The major component of all this is Uncle Dennis cause he sort of fans the flames. Even the Spurs will tell you behind the scenes, ‘hey did we get this right? Well we don’t know,’ because they never got a chance to go through their rehab process long enough to know whether what they were doing worked. A lot of people don’t know this, but the Spurs gave Kawhi and his camp control of his injury situation, they let them take over on August 8th of last year. People do not realize that.”

 

Which brings us to the injury itself and the rehabilitation process.

 

 

 

The Spurs were bystanders in Kawhi’s rehab after August 8th 2017

 

According to Wright, the Spurs handed over control of Kawhi’s injury to his group back in August of last season when Leonard complained of pain from the rehabilitation exercises that the Spurs were putting him through to treat his quad. While it was reported at various points throughout the season that Spurs’ doctors were with Kawhi in New York during his rehab process, it appears that they had no input whatsoever on the treatment that Kawhi’s doctors were putting him through, which is when we can slot the story of Kawhi’s people moving him to a different part of the building when Spurs’ brass arrived.

The reason that Gregg Popovich did not have any answers for reporters and fans throughout the season is because the process was entirely out of their hands, while also being left in the dark about it, and there is still some questions about Leonard’s health as of this writing:

 

“Think about this, you go through the entire season, and Pop was asked these questions over and over and over again and I don’t think people realize this: Pop didn’t have any answers because the whole rehab process was out of his hands, he didn’t know anything. So when he’s saying, ‘You’ll have to ask his group,’ it’s not that he’s taking shots at Kawhi and his people its that he doesn’t know.”

 

 

Notes on the Laker trade talks

 

The last few weeks have brought a new phrase into the equation when discussing a potential Spurs-Lakers trade for Leonard: Godfather offer.The Spurs want a king’s ransom back in return for their superstar, and Wright detailed what he heard they were looking for from MagicJohnson, while also acknowledging that it is unlikely the Spurs get back what they desire:

 

“From what I heard the Spurs wanted Brandon Ingram, Kuzma, Hart and 3 picks. But i talked to someone else and they were like, ‘No I heard 4 picks,’...Teams are not going to do that deal, and as the summer progresses I think teams are going to be less likely to do that type of deal and the Spurs are going to have to reel back what their demands are at this point.”

 

 

The Spurs are still unsure of what to do with Leonard

 

Going forward, it appears that there is uncertainty with what will happen with Leonard and the franchise, even among higher ups in the organization:

 

“Even right now, as we speak, the Spurs STILL don’t know what they want to do with him. I’ve had conversations in the last couple days with very high ranking Spurs’ officials and they do not know. They don’t know if and when a trade is going to happen, they don’t know if they’re going to keep him and trying to work it out. Now their preference is to keep him and try to work out it.”

 

Wright points out that there is a certain 221 million dollar super max extension that could clear all this up, at least for the moment, but after the year the Spurs just had dealing with this situation, they are fully aware of the risks that would come with handing over 30% throughout the next 5 years of their cap to Leonard:

 

“My guy told me, ‘Hey i bet if we put that big check in his face, everything will work out.’ And my response to that was, “Ok that’s cool, it’ll be all kumbaya for a couple months, but what happens if Uncle Dennis or Kawhi decides they wanna pull this same stuff from his past season?”

 

This would appear to confirm that the Spurs have yet to even offer the super max extension, acknowledging that it is a massive gamble to give up that much money and cap space on a player and his group that seemingly has become unpredictable and unhinged.

In the end, Wright believes the Spurs are at a point where they will do what is best for them, not for Kawhi. Much like this entire drama has been all year though, do not expect a timetable to lay it all out for us.

[marceli73]

Nie wiem jak się sprawa skończy z tym gnojem ale nawet jak podpisze extension powinnyśmy go przy najbliższej okazji wymienić do jakiegoś Charlote, Milwakee lub Brooklinu. 

[ignazz]

Shit.

 

Leo za poetla og i różana blisko ....

Spurs rzucają 1st 2019

Niby wszystko Ok ale my mamy zaraz 9 sg.

Nagle przyspieszenie Toronto znaczy docisk ofert 76 ers lub celts

[Lucas]

DeRozan nie jest ogórkiem i doceniam jego postęp choćby rzutowy, a dwójka młodych jest ok, zwłaszcza OG, ale deal z oddaniem Kawhiego bez zejścia z jakiegoś złego kontraktu (Mills/Pau) i brak picku, a nawet oddanie swojego to byliby trochę mało m.

[ignazz]

But there are bigger incentives for Leonard to show up. Back in March, Leonard began feuding with the Jordan Brand over his new sneaker deal. Leonard wants a big sneaker deal, but Jordan Brand refused to give it to him.

 

The biggest shoe money is in China, and guess where the FIBA World Championships will take place in 2019? You guessed it, China. And then the Olympics are in 2020 in Japan.

 

Any player who makes the USA Basketball roster has the potential to see their sneakers sales pop in Asia over the next two summers.

Raczej nie stać leonarda aby się nie zjawił zdrowy na kadrze u.... popa

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