Los Angeles Lakers 2020/2021

[memento1984]

32 minuty temu, nba2midnight napisał:

Racja. To byl w ogole tak c***owy i nic nie warty tytul, ze Clippers w ogole sie grac nie chcialo i tak naprawde odpuscili z Nuggets, a reszta chciala jak najszybciej do domu wrocic, tylko Heat jak juz dotarli do finalu to cos tam powalczyli i dwa mecze urwali, skoro juz tam byli.

No a w tym roku juz wszystko bylo normalne calkowicie na szczescie. Dowod? No bo Lebron nie wygral.

Nie byl to normalny tytul i ma swoja wartosc bo Lebron nie odpuszcza, ale to byl rok raz na 100lat.

[Kubbas]

Jakbysmy mieli sobie pogdybac

Mills

Westbrook

Matthews? jakis 3&D

Lebron

Davis

spacing spoko

[nba2midnight]

27 minut temu, Kubbas napisał:

Jakbysmy mieli sobie pogdybac

Mills

Westbrook

Matthews? jakis 3&D

Lebron

Davis

spacing spoko

Podsumowujac ploty, to byloby cos takiego poki co

 

Westbrook

Caruso

THT

DeRozan

Melo

Gay

Wes

McKinnie

Kieff

Lebron

AD

Gasol (o ile sie nie retirementuje)

To dwunastka.

 

No i moze jeszcze Drumm/McLemore/Dudley

[Baptizia]

Ups.. 

[Jendras]

Broderick Turner z konkretami:

Cytat

The Lakers need shooting. One name that is coming up is Patty Mills. He can shoot the lights out and would be great off the bench. Wayne Ellington is another shooter who has interest in rejoining the Lakers. Trevor Ariza and Andre Iguodala are veteran wings who are candidates. Carmelo Anthony is interested, just waiting on a call from the Lakers when free agency opens Monday. Guess who might be back for a third time? Yup, Dwight Howard is ready to return and play center. Jeff Green and Goran Dragic also are names to look out for.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2021-07-31/nba-free-agency-lakers-clippers-options

Czyli moglibyśmy mieć coś takiego:

Westbrook/Mills
THT/Ellington
James/Ariza/Igguodala
Davis/Melo
Dwight/Marc

+ kwestia własnych wolnych agentów, czyli Caruso, Matthews czy Morris

[Kubbas]

Dragic by był przezajebisty

[Koelner]

LeBron jeszcze Hardena nie ściągnął , może jednak ?

[BMF]

9 godzin temu, Jendras napisał:

Westbrook/Mills
THT/Ellington
James/Ariza/Igguodala
Davis/Melo
Dwight/Marc

+ kwestia własnych wolnych agentów, czyli Caruso, Matthews czy Morris

No, coś podobnego by było bardzo ok.

10 godzin temu, Jendras napisał:

Koniec końców sytuacja mogłaby być podobna co teraz, tyle że z DeRozanem zamiast Westbrooka i twardym limitem wydatków

To prawda, po prostu chyba wolałbym DeRozana.

[Kubbas]

tak swoja droga, mozna sie dopierdalac do westbrooka (jest za co) wiadomo

ale najlepszy wysoki z jakim jako ROZGRYWAJACY gral?

Ibaka ktory non stop wychodzi na obwod i rzadko roluje?

teraz bedzie mial Davisa

 

[Kubbas]

 

[Eld]

W dniu 31.07.2021 o 19:30, memento1984 napisał:

Kurtyna w dol:

https://mobile.twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1421507767148351492

Życzę szwabowi aby skończył z czymś w okolicach MLE.

Pacan. 

14 godzin temu, Jendras napisał:

Broderick Turner z konkretami:

https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2021-07-31/nba-free-agency-lakers-clippers-options

Czyli moglibyśmy mieć coś takiego:

Westbrook/Mills
THT/Ellington
James/Ariza/Igguodala
Davis/Melo
Dwight/Marc

+ kwestia własnych wolnych agentów, czyli Caruso, Matthews czy Morris

Ktoś tak z ciekawości policzy jaka tu jest średnia wieku?

Ale geriatria.

[Koelner]

6 godzin temu, Eld napisał:

 

Ale geriatria.

Tak samo o tym pomyślałem . Rockets z Hakeemem , Drexlerem i Barkleyem mi się przypomnieli .

[nba2midnight]

 

[Jendras]

2 godziny temu, Koelner napisał:

Tak samo o tym pomyślałem . Rockets z Hakeemem , Drexlerem i Barkleyem mi się przypomnieli .

A mnie Miami LeBrona

14 godzin temu, BMF napisał:

No, coś podobnego by było bardzo ok.

To prawda, po prostu chyba wolałbym DeRozana.

Gdyby DeRozan był choć ciut lepszym fitem, to pewnie bym się zgodził, ale on w gruncie rzecz ma podobne wady, co Westbrook, tylko w nieco mniejszej skali, a do tego dochodzi ten hardcap.

[nba2midnight]

Fajna historia o przyjściu Westbrooka jak ktoś ma chwilę. Zwłaszcza jak ktoś lubi insajderskie klimaty. Jeśli wszystko tu jest prawdziwe to też fajnie, kolejny raz pokazuje, że Kawhi Leonard nie jest taki 'autystyczny' i taki całkiem amebiczny jak niektórzy twierdzą. Dla jednych może to być spryciarz, dla innych kawal c***ka, ale na pewno nie taki zawieszony na jakiego wyglada. Dodaje to tez smaczku kolejnego bitwom o LA.

 

How two phone calls two years apart led to the Los Angeles Lakers landing Russell
RUSSELL WESTBROOK IS many things as a basketball player -- aggressive, explosive, inefficient -- but most of all he is decisive. A man of action, the saying goes. When there is no shot, he will create one. When there is no path to the basket, he will find one -- through sheer force of will or chutzpah.

So in the summer of 2019, while the rest of the NBA world fretted over who reigning NBA Finals MVP Kawhi Leonard would choose between the Toronto Raptors and his hometown Los Angeles Lakers or LA Clippers, Westbrook was coming up with a plan to collaborate with him on a homecoming.

Westbrook had become a father of three the previous November, and while he'd made a home and carved a Hall of Fame legacy in Oklahoma City, the chance to live and play in Los Angeles, where grandparents and his large extended family and friends could visit every day, held deep appeal.

Teaming up with Leonard would be the fastest way there, so he placed the call, according to multiple sources. But Leonard didn't just take the call as one native son of Los Angeles to another, ponder it and file it away.

He used it.


According to multiple sources, Leonard then called Westbrook's teammate in Oklahoma City, Paul George, and told him he'd rather team up with him on a homecoming.

George had always longed to play in front of his family as well but had formed a close bond with Westbrook in their two seasons together in Oklahoma City and was content to stay.


Leonard's call upended all of that, though. And within a week, Leonard was teaming up with George -- not Westbrook -- for their hometown LA Clippers.

While Westbrook began a journey that would take him to three new teams over the next two seasons, each time moving farther from both the NBA championship he'd been chasing his whole career -- and his hometown of Los Angeles. But he never gave up hope of fulfilling those goals.

His longtime agent Thad Foucher helped guide him through each of those massive trades, which seemed independent of each other until you consider the previously unknown prologue between Leonard and Westbrook, which began the entire chain of events and now looms as a delicious subplot to all future Lakers-Clippers games.

Westbrook's homecoming trade to the Lakers on Thursday evening wasn't two weeks in the making. It was two years in the making.

ROB PELINKA ARRIVED at the Lakers training facility early on Thursday morning, ready to act on two very important decisions that would now need to be made in rapid succession.

First, and most importantly, was a potential trade for Sacramento Kings guard Buddy Hield that the two teams had worked on for weeks. The conversations had been serious, but theoretical as the Lakers waited for word from forward Montrezl Harrell -- who would have to be included in the deal to offset Hield's $22.5 million salary -- on whether he was picking up his $9.7 million player option for this season.

Then there was the NBA draft, beginning at 5 p.m. local time, in which the Lakers held the No. 22 overall pick.

The Hield trade was appealing on many levels -- his youth, shooting ability and star potential among them -- and felt like a good way to reinvent the team after a disappointing, injury-plagued 2020-21 season. If Harrell picked up his player option, sources said the Lakers intended to move forward with the deal. But Harrell had until Sunday to make his decision, and the trade needed to be made before the draft because the No. 22 pick was a potential asset. There was no certainty he would do so in time.

Then, midway through the morning of draft day, Pelinka received a surprising call. It was from Washington Wizards general manager Tommy Sheppard -- he wanted to discuss a Russell Westbrook trade.

There had been informal conversations between the teams about such a deal previously, but ultimately the Wizards had preferred to give the pairing of Westbrook and Bradley Beal another season to work after 2020-21 was set back by a COVID-19 outbreak within the team in January.

That morning, however, sources indicate Westbrook and Foucher called the Wizards to say that he was happy to play in Washington another two seasons, but if there was a trade with the Lakers that made sense for both franchises, he would welcome the chance to compete for a championship in his hometown.

Westbrook had been in close communication with Beal since the season ended, as both weighed their basketball futures in D.C., sources said. They'd enjoyed playing together last season and felt some optimism that a second would be more successful than their opening-round playoff exit. But both also had concerns about the ability of the team, as currently constructed, to compete at the highest level.

There was a key difference in their situations: Beal was 28, squarely in his prime, and loyal to the franchise that had drafted him fourth overall in 2012. Westbrook was 32, with likely just a few more seasons to win at the highest level. Westbrook had also been left behind by another co-star: Kevin Durant in Oklahoma City. Last year in Houston, when James Harden started expressing doubts about his future with the franchise, Westbrook decided not to sit back and get left behind again, as Foucher and the Rockets worked together to create the trade with Washington.

At each stop, Westbrook had left on great terms with his previous franchises putting out press releases thanking him and Foucher for his contributions and professionalism.

Westbrook wanted to give Beal as much consideration as possible, talking throughout the offseason as they both mulled their futures with the team, sources said. But when reports about the Lakers' interest in Hield heated up, sources said Westbrook decided it was best to raise the possibility of a trade to the Wizards front office.

Westbrook knew two things: If the Lakers traded for Hield, they wouldn't have the assets to trade for him. And the draft was another time constraint: The No. 22 pick could also be a key asset in a potential trade that would net Washington the most return.

For Westbrook, it was too big of a moment to let pass. This might be his last, best chance to play in his hometown and compete for a championship. He couldn't take a chance on getting left behind if Beal later asked to move on from Washington, and he knew this was likely the best return the Wizards would be able to get for him.

FOR WEEKS, WESTBROOK had been talking to Lakers star LeBron James about the possibility of playing together, sources said. They'd talk about working out together and how they'd push each other in the gym and on the court. Both are known around the NBA as insatiable workout guys who pride themselves on the condition they keep their bodies, and how early they get to the gym.

There's an oft-told story about Westbrook and Durant in their early years together in Oklahoma City, when they'd try to beat each other into the facility each morning, ultimately arriving well before dawn. The team finally had to tell each of them to show up at the same time, so the staffers didn't have to get there to meet them.

James, of course, often posts his early morning workouts on his social media with a timestamp.

Competitively, Westbrook and James seem like a great match: Two alphas who thrive off structure, hard work and discipline.

Stylistically though, they had to meet to talk through how that might work. So James invited Westbrook and Anthony Davis over to his house in Brentwood for a meeting of the minds.

James had played and won championships with aggressive playmakers before. In Miami, it took a season and a half to work through how to mesh his game with Dwyane Wade. But ultimately they sorted through it and won two titles together. That experience helped him in Cleveland, when he had to solve how to play with Kyrie Irving

Westbrook can command the focus of opposing defenses like those players, but he has key differences. His 43.7% career shooting is worse than both Wade (48%) and Irving (47%). He also averages more turnovers (4.1) than Wade (3.2) and Irving (2.6). But of course Westbrook is an incredible rebounder (7.4) and assist generator (8.5), and has averaged a triple-double four times in the past five seasons.

For the Lakers, the stylistic concerns were allayed -- at least for the moment -- when James and Davis blessed the move.

In their end-of-season evaluations, sources said the Lakers concluded the one thing they'd truly missed from their championship run in 2020 was a secondary playmaker to James.

Rajon Rondo had elevated his game in the playoffs and provided that skill in several key games in 2020. They'd hoped Dennis Schroder could do the same, especially if there was an injury to James or Davis. But he struggled in the playoffs, and glaringly so after Davis' groin injury. So the team's primary focus in the offseason was to add an elite playmaker, sources said.

Free agent point guard Kyle Lowry was a strong consideration, just as he had been at the trade deadline, sources said. So was Chris Paul.

But free agency is always a risk, as other teams could make bigger, better offers than L.A., and backup options could vanish quickly as top-tier players weighed their options. The Lakers had experienced that two summers earlier, waiting for Leonard to make his free agent decision. L.A. would also likely be hard-capped if it acquired a player via sign-and-trade.

The preferred option was to trade for an elite playmaker before free agency, the proverbial bird in the hand.

Free agency was also potentially a lot costlier and more restrictive, as they'd first have to keep their own free agents, Schroder, Alex Caruso and Talen Horton-Tucker. Sources indicate Schroder is looking for a contract north of $20 million per season, Caruso is expected to field multiple offers at or above the full mid-level exception of $9.5 million per season, as could Horton-Tucker, a restricted free agent

Keeping all three of their own free agents, and trading for someone like Hield would've pushed the Lakers luxury tax bill well over $100 million -- an NBA record.

For Washington, the choice was even simpler. Keeping Beal happy and with the franchise is the top priority. He seems to be looking for reasons to stay, so the best way to do that is build out a team around him that has the best chance to win. One season of Beal and Westbrook had netted a ninth-place finish and first-round playoff exit.


The return Washington got for Westbrook -- Kyle Kuzma, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Harrell and the No. 22 pick in the draft, which was later flipped to Indiana for Aaron Holiday and the No. 31 pick -- gives them three solid rotation players and the financial flexibility to make more moves in the future.

It was not a scenario either franchise envisioned heading into Thursday morning. But things evolve rapidly in the NBA and sometimes bold choices have to be made quickly.

Westbrook has never been afraid to seize moments like these. To attack them like he attacks the rim.

He's had the will to play in his hometown for two years now. His first attempt backfired. But this time, he found a way there.

 

[Idealny Tułej]

37 minut temu, nba2midnight napisał:

Fajna historia o przyjściu Westbrooka jak ktoś ma chwilę. Zwłaszcza jak ktoś lubi insajderskie klimaty. Jeśli wszystko tu jest prawdziwe to też fajnie, kolejny raz pokazuje, że Kawhi Leonard nie jest taki 'autystyczny' i taki całkiem amebiczny jak niektórzy twierdzą. Dla jednych może to być spryciarz, dla innych kawal c***ka, ale na pewno nie taki zawieszony na jakiego wyglada. Dodaje to tez smaczku kolejnego bitwom o LA.

Jakby ktoś szukał tego tekstu to wrzucam poniżej:

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/31937985/how-two-phone-calls-two-years-apart-led-los-angeles-lakers-landing-russell-westbrook

[Van]

Rozumiem trochę wartość takiego gościa jak RW dla drużyn, które nie mają aspiracji mistrzowskich i każde kilka dodatkowych wygranych w regular, awans do PO czy po prostu przyciągnięcie kibiców na mecz do już sukces. 

 

Nie rozumiem nijak ściągania go do takiej drużyny jak Lakers i nie rozumiałbym tego nawet gdyby został wykupiony i wyrwaliby go za minimum. To nie jest przypadek headcase'a, który robi problemy i może przy LeBronie się ogarnie, on już daje z siebie wszystko tylko jego styl gry jest jaki jest i tego nie zmieni w tym wieku. Lakers widać było jak brakowało kogoś kto na równym poziomie będzie wspierał najlepiej grożąc rzutem z dysta su LeBrona i AD a oni sprowadzają RW?? 

 

Szukam na siłę pozytywów i jedyne co mi do głowy przychodzi to wspomniany już secondary playmaker (tylko czy za to trzeba płacić naprawdę +40baniek??) i na wypadek kontuzji w regular parę wygranych może tym swoim stylem wyszarpać. 

 

Nie wiem jak będzie wyglądała reszta składu, ale co by nie zrobili to trudno mi tu dopatrywać się happy endu, chyba zdrowi Davis i LeBron  będą grali każdy na poziomie MVP i że resztę składu jakimś cudem złożą z gości, którzy pozwolą wygrać pomimo obecności RW w zespole, a nie dzięki niemu, ale to chyba nie o to powinno chodzić jak bierzesz gościa zarabiającego taka kasę... 

[memento1984]

2 godziny temu, nba2midnight napisał:

Fajna historia o przyjściu Westbrooka jak ktoś ma chwilę. Zwłaszcza jak ktoś lubi insajderskie klimaty. Jeśli wszystko tu jest prawdziwe to też fajnie, kolejny raz pokazuje, że Kawhi Leonard nie jest taki 'autystyczny' i taki całkiem amebiczny jak niektórzy twierdzą. Dla jednych może to być spryciarz, dla innych kawal c***ka, ale na pewno nie taki zawieszony na jakiego wyglada. Dodaje to tez smaczku kolejnego bitwom o LA.

 

How two phone calls two years apart led to the Los Angeles Lakers landing Russell
RUSSELL WESTBROOK IS many things as a basketball player -- aggressive, explosive, inefficient -- but most of all he is decisive. A man of action, the saying goes. When there is no shot, he will create one. When there is no path to the basket, he will find one -- through sheer force of will or chutzpah.

So in the summer of 2019, while the rest of the NBA world fretted over who reigning NBA Finals MVP Kawhi Leonard would choose between the Toronto Raptors and his hometown Los Angeles Lakers or LA Clippers, Westbrook was coming up with a plan to collaborate with him on a homecoming.

Westbrook had become a father of three the previous November, and while he'd made a home and carved a Hall of Fame legacy in Oklahoma City, the chance to live and play in Los Angeles, where grandparents and his large extended family and friends could visit every day, held deep appeal.

Teaming up with Leonard would be the fastest way there, so he placed the call, according to multiple sources. But Leonard didn't just take the call as one native son of Los Angeles to another, ponder it and file it away.

He used it.


According to multiple sources, Leonard then called Westbrook's teammate in Oklahoma City, Paul George, and told him he'd rather team up with him on a homecoming.

George had always longed to play in front of his family as well but had formed a close bond with Westbrook in their two seasons together in Oklahoma City and was content to stay.


Leonard's call upended all of that, though. And within a week, Leonard was teaming up with George -- not Westbrook -- for their hometown LA Clippers.

While Westbrook began a journey that would take him to three new teams over the next two seasons, each time moving farther from both the NBA championship he'd been chasing his whole career -- and his hometown of Los Angeles. But he never gave up hope of fulfilling those goals.

His longtime agent Thad Foucher helped guide him through each of those massive trades, which seemed independent of each other until you consider the previously unknown prologue between Leonard and Westbrook, which began the entire chain of events and now looms as a delicious subplot to all future Lakers-Clippers games.

Westbrook's homecoming trade to the Lakers on Thursday evening wasn't two weeks in the making. It was two years in the making.

ROB PELINKA ARRIVED at the Lakers training facility early on Thursday morning, ready to act on two very important decisions that would now need to be made in rapid succession.

First, and most importantly, was a potential trade for Sacramento Kings guard Buddy Hield that the two teams had worked on for weeks. The conversations had been serious, but theoretical as the Lakers waited for word from forward Montrezl Harrell -- who would have to be included in the deal to offset Hield's $22.5 million salary -- on whether he was picking up his $9.7 million player option for this season.

Then there was the NBA draft, beginning at 5 p.m. local time, in which the Lakers held the No. 22 overall pick.

The Hield trade was appealing on many levels -- his youth, shooting ability and star potential among them -- and felt like a good way to reinvent the team after a disappointing, injury-plagued 2020-21 season. If Harrell picked up his player option, sources said the Lakers intended to move forward with the deal. But Harrell had until Sunday to make his decision, and the trade needed to be made before the draft because the No. 22 pick was a potential asset. There was no certainty he would do so in time.

Then, midway through the morning of draft day, Pelinka received a surprising call. It was from Washington Wizards general manager Tommy Sheppard -- he wanted to discuss a Russell Westbrook trade.

There had been informal conversations between the teams about such a deal previously, but ultimately the Wizards had preferred to give the pairing of Westbrook and Bradley Beal another season to work after 2020-21 was set back by a COVID-19 outbreak within the team in January.

That morning, however, sources indicate Westbrook and Foucher called the Wizards to say that he was happy to play in Washington another two seasons, but if there was a trade with the Lakers that made sense for both franchises, he would welcome the chance to compete for a championship in his hometown.

Westbrook had been in close communication with Beal since the season ended, as both weighed their basketball futures in D.C., sources said. They'd enjoyed playing together last season and felt some optimism that a second would be more successful than their opening-round playoff exit. But both also had concerns about the ability of the team, as currently constructed, to compete at the highest level.

There was a key difference in their situations: Beal was 28, squarely in his prime, and loyal to the franchise that had drafted him fourth overall in 2012. Westbrook was 32, with likely just a few more seasons to win at the highest level. Westbrook had also been left behind by another co-star: Kevin Durant in Oklahoma City. Last year in Houston, when James Harden started expressing doubts about his future with the franchise, Westbrook decided not to sit back and get left behind again, as Foucher and the Rockets worked together to create the trade with Washington.

At each stop, Westbrook had left on great terms with his previous franchises putting out press releases thanking him and Foucher for his contributions and professionalism.

Westbrook wanted to give Beal as much consideration as possible, talking throughout the offseason as they both mulled their futures with the team, sources said. But when reports about the Lakers' interest in Hield heated up, sources said Westbrook decided it was best to raise the possibility of a trade to the Wizards front office.

Westbrook knew two things: If the Lakers traded for Hield, they wouldn't have the assets to trade for him. And the draft was another time constraint: The No. 22 pick could also be a key asset in a potential trade that would net Washington the most return.

For Westbrook, it was too big of a moment to let pass. This might be his last, best chance to play in his hometown and compete for a championship. He couldn't take a chance on getting left behind if Beal later asked to move on from Washington, and he knew this was likely the best return the Wizards would be able to get for him.

FOR WEEKS, WESTBROOK had been talking to Lakers star LeBron James about the possibility of playing together, sources said. They'd talk about working out together and how they'd push each other in the gym and on the court. Both are known around the NBA as insatiable workout guys who pride themselves on the condition they keep their bodies, and how early they get to the gym.

There's an oft-told story about Westbrook and Durant in their early years together in Oklahoma City, when they'd try to beat each other into the facility each morning, ultimately arriving well before dawn. The team finally had to tell each of them to show up at the same time, so the staffers didn't have to get there to meet them.

James, of course, often posts his early morning workouts on his social media with a timestamp.

Competitively, Westbrook and James seem like a great match: Two alphas who thrive off structure, hard work and discipline.

Stylistically though, they had to meet to talk through how that might work. So James invited Westbrook and Anthony Davis over to his house in Brentwood for a meeting of the minds.

James had played and won championships with aggressive playmakers before. In Miami, it took a season and a half to work through how to mesh his game with Dwyane Wade. But ultimately they sorted through it and won two titles together. That experience helped him in Cleveland, when he had to solve how to play with Kyrie Irving

Westbrook can command the focus of opposing defenses like those players, but he has key differences. His 43.7% career shooting is worse than both Wade (48%) and Irving (47%). He also averages more turnovers (4.1) than Wade (3.2) and Irving (2.6). But of course Westbrook is an incredible rebounder (7.4) and assist generator (8.5), and has averaged a triple-double four times in the past five seasons.

For the Lakers, the stylistic concerns were allayed -- at least for the moment -- when James and Davis blessed the move.

In their end-of-season evaluations, sources said the Lakers concluded the one thing they'd truly missed from their championship run in 2020 was a secondary playmaker to James.

Rajon Rondo had elevated his game in the playoffs and provided that skill in several key games in 2020. They'd hoped Dennis Schroder could do the same, especially if there was an injury to James or Davis. But he struggled in the playoffs, and glaringly so after Davis' groin injury. So the team's primary focus in the offseason was to add an elite playmaker, sources said.

Free agent point guard Kyle Lowry was a strong consideration, just as he had been at the trade deadline, sources said. So was Chris Paul.

But free agency is always a risk, as other teams could make bigger, better offers than L.A., and backup options could vanish quickly as top-tier players weighed their options. The Lakers had experienced that two summers earlier, waiting for Leonard to make his free agent decision. L.A. would also likely be hard-capped if it acquired a player via sign-and-trade.

The preferred option was to trade for an elite playmaker before free agency, the proverbial bird in the hand.

Free agency was also potentially a lot costlier and more restrictive, as they'd first have to keep their own free agents, Schroder, Alex Caruso and Talen Horton-Tucker. Sources indicate Schroder is looking for a contract north of $20 million per season, Caruso is expected to field multiple offers at or above the full mid-level exception of $9.5 million per season, as could Horton-Tucker, a restricted free agent

Keeping all three of their own free agents, and trading for someone like Hield would've pushed the Lakers luxury tax bill well over $100 million -- an NBA record.

For Washington, the choice was even simpler. Keeping Beal happy and with the franchise is the top priority. He seems to be looking for reasons to stay, so the best way to do that is build out a team around him that has the best chance to win. One season of Beal and Westbrook had netted a ninth-place finish and first-round playoff exit.


The return Washington got for Westbrook -- Kyle Kuzma, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Harrell and the No. 22 pick in the draft, which was later flipped to Indiana for Aaron Holiday and the No. 31 pick -- gives them three solid rotation players and the financial flexibility to make more moves in the future.

It was not a scenario either franchise envisioned heading into Thursday morning. But things evolve rapidly in the NBA and sometimes bold choices have to be made quickly.

Westbrook has never been afraid to seize moments like these. To attack them like he attacks the rim.

He's had the will to play in his hometown for two years now. His first attempt backfired. But this time, he found a way there.

 

tyle pi****lenia w klawiature nt przeplaconego goscia "po drugiej stronie" koszykarskiej rzeki - ci dziennikarze "przy koszykowce" to chyba mysla ze pisza jakas "modern" epopeje. jakkolwiek nie malowac tego trejdu (teraz -> "its personal" jak u Majkiego) jest mega wujowy. Lakers maja trzech lamliwych tudziez starych gosci i Denga za 120mln.

epopeja to bedzie rzezbienie zeby zebrac 6 graczy ktorzy potrafia grac a zostali zweryfikowani jako niepotrzebni gdzie indziej (tj <MLE, bo nawet MLE LAL maja "nie-ekskluzywne")

[nba2midnight]

Widzę że Westbrook w Lakers i big 3 zanim nawet dotkneli piłki ma zupełnie inna narrację niż big 3 Nets rok temu.

Tu pomimo oczywiscie pewnych znaków zapytania, kwestii fitu, pomijając fakt że to dalej trzech superstarow (gdzie akurat Westbrook w Wizards wszystkich raczej na plus wszystkich zaskakiwal tym co dawał drużynie, zwłaszcza w drugiej części jego pobytu w Waszyngtonie) z naprawdę potencjałem dominowania rywali, to jednak już z góry wiadomo, że się nie uda NA PEWNO choćby nie wiadomo co, bo jest tylko pięciu graczy pod kontraktem  brak strzelców (gdzie FA zaczyna się na za jakieś 2.5 h dopiero) itd.

W Nets był już sezon, pod koszem wiatr hulal i choć potencjał mega ofensywny, to w obronie ewidentnie tragedia, zdrowie superstarow DUZO bardziej questionable, to jeszcze meczu nie zagrali, a już było "rostrzelaja wszystkich", "game over" itd...

Dlatego właśnie niech mnie ekipy się dozbroja, zgraja i w pełnym zdrowiu dotrwaja do nba Finals cobysmy mogli właśnie te BIG 3 skonfrontować w końcu!

5 minut temu, memento1984 napisał:

tyle pi****lenia w klawiature nt przeplaconego goscia "po drugiej stronie" koszykarskiej rzeki - ci dziennikarze "przy koszykowce" to chyba mysla ze pisza jakas "modern" epopeje. jakkolwiek nie malowac tego trejdu (teraz -> "its personal" jak u Majkiego) jest mega wujowy. Lakers maja trzech lamliwych tudziez starych gosci i Denga za 120mln.

epopeja to bedzie rzezbienie zeby zebrac 6 graczy ktorzy potrafia grac a zostali zweryfikowani jako niepotrzebni gdzie indziej (tj <MLE, bo nawet MLE LAL maja "nie-ekskluzywne")

Może i pi****lenie, ale po co w takim razie całość tegoż pi****lenia cytować?

[BMF]

Irving-Harden-Durant to lepszy fit niż Westbrook-LeBron-Davis, a i tak dużo osób niesłusznie kwestionowało fit w Nets. 

Westbrook-LeBron-Davis nie jest za to tak słabe, jak wydaje się dla części osób, skoro LeBron był w stanie funkcjonować obok past prime Wade'a czy Schrodera rok temu, ale potrzebuje spacing a'la Heat '13, gdzie obok było z reguły dwóch ~40% shooterów, no i potrzebuje być w prime. Zobaczymy nad ranem.